Tema: Spain's Black Legend

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I don't see anything contradictory about being both a Christian and a deist.

Well, according to my dictionary: Deism /ˈdeɪɪz(ə)m, ˈdiːɪ-/ ▶Noun. Belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. Does that really match Christian teachings?

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The war with Mexico resulted from the issue of Texian independence from Mexico; the southern states which later formed the Confederate States of America were the main instigators of this conflict because they wanted to bring Texas in as one of the slave-holding states.

I don't care wether the instigators were southern US people or northern US people. Anglosaxon immigrants had been generously welcome in Texas (Mexico), a country that didn't belong to them, and they rose up against the legitimate owners of that region. Their fellow anglosaxon brothers of the U.S. could just have helped them secede from Mexico, but taking along also California and New Mexico sounded better.

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The war with Spain resulted from meddling in the issue of Cuban independence, which had been an ongoing problem in the U.S. since at least the administration of President Grant. In 1871 there seems to have been a bit of a conspiracy in the U.S. Congress, masterminded by Congressmen from the southern states, to push the U.S. into supporting the Cuban rebels. Grant hastily put an end to this plot and carried on a diplomatic correspondence with the presiding Spanish monarch at the time through official channels.

What exactly was the problem in the U.S.? The US-Spanish war broke out 20 years after the war between Spain and the Cuban separatists was over anyway. Moreover, meddling in a foreign country's internal politics in order to obtain benefits and colonies is also imperialism. I hope you don't believe Spain sank the USS Maine, do you?

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They never had any intention of invading the mother-country. Spain and France were the two countries that were considering an invasion of British soil as a part of the Bourbon Family Compact. As I've said the colonists simply wanted the redcoats out of North America.

I'm not saying they had, because it would have been impossible for them. But Cromwell was a predecessor of those same anti-royalist, anti-catholic, republican ideas and you know what he did.

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If the U.S. was founded by masonic anti-Catholics, I still lack a proper understanding of the term, why is the U.S. the fourth largest Catholic nation in the world at the moment?

I think the English section of the forum lacks of more information about freemasonry and their "great contribution" to "human development". The fact that milions of catholics have been immigrating to the U.S. for work doesn't mean that the U.S. founding fathers weren't anticatholic or that catholics didn't use to be discriminated in the U.S.
Of course I think it's good that the catholic population is increasing there and I also think there's much more catholic activism there than here. But I also think it's hard to be a good north american patriot and a traditional catholic.