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Hello Milesian, glad to see you here.
The text is wrote in portuguese. It propose the creation of a nationalist and separatist forum for people of Northern Portugal and Galicia (the people of this lands are "galaicos", members of the same nation, for the writer), it said that Irish Nationalism is a technical example of what he wants. The ideological orientation is:
1) anti left-wing ideologies.
2) antiimmigration.
2)"galaicos" are whites and europeans, southern portuguese and spaniards are filthy mongrels.
3) "galaicos" are not culturally related with southern portuguese and spaniards, who has semitic and ridiculous culture.
4) It has no mention to religion
5) Celtism and germanism as basis of the "galaic" nationalism
The style (Combatent-style ;) )of the text reminds me a well-known galician nutzi, expert on cyberfight.
The text speaks about you as friend and colaborator of the project.
Where do you found this freak?
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Dear Alejandro:
My english is not so better than you spanish , nevertheless there are many Gallicians here and they must have the honor to answer you , but I think that the text is full of mad ideas.
On the other side ,I would like to demmand you some information, let me tell you my wife has an Irish surname , her great-grand parents came to Spain In the XVIII century , with thousand of Irish to fight in the Spanish Army , against England , they were the lasts-one of the rebels irish in arms.
Most of them arrive to the South to the Imperial Ports of Seville and Cádiz ,and a few to Galicia.
they were complete Units , "regimientos" of the Spanish Marines , the irihs regiments wore a special blue jackets , "Irish blue" differents from the spanish militar jacket ,red and white ,and their courage were really Known for all.
have you got some information about this unit? , they were something like ,special-force and his blood still alive in many places of the southern Spain; kingdom of Seville and Granada.
Sincerly yours,and sorry for my english
Gonzalo Revenga.
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Iniciado por Donoso
Hello Milesian, glad to see you here.
The pleasure is all mine :thumbsup
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The text is wrote in portuguese. It propose the creation of a nationalist and separatist forum for people of Northern Portugal and Galicia (the people of this lands are "galaicos", members of the same nation, for the writer), it said that Irish Nationalism is a technical example of what he wants.
Seperatist as in independence from Spain and Portugal?
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The ideological orientation is:
2)"galaicos" are whites and europeans, southern portuguese and spaniards are filthy mongrels.
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3) "galaicos" are not culturally related with southern portuguese and spaniards, who has semitic and ridiculous culture.
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4) It has no mention to religion
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5) Celtism and germanism as basis of the "galaic" nationalism
Well I understand a respect for the Celtic heritage, but it is more than that. As for Germanicism......bah! ;)
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The style (Combatent-style ;) )of the text reminds me a well-known galician nutzi, expert on cyberfight.
Combatent? I hope not! :D
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The text speaks about you as friend and colaborator of the project.
That is strange, as I have no knowledge of any such thing
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Where do you found this freak?
I found him through a Google search. Once I am on my home PC, I will try and post the link
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Dear Alejandro:
My english is not so better than you spanish , nevertheless there are many Gallicians here and they must have the honor to answer you , but I think that the text is full of mad ideas.
Your English is commendable, but even still there is no shame in having bad English. I would prefer not to use it myself if possible, it is only a necessity. There is an Irish saying - "Is fearr Gaeilge briste na Bearla cliste" which translates as "Even broken Irish is better than clever English" :)
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On the other side ,I would like to demmand you some information, let me tell you my wife has an Irish surname , her great-grand parents came to Spain In the XVIII century , with thousand of Irish to fight in the Spanish Army , against England , they were the lasts-one of the rebels irish in arms.
Most of them arrive to the South to the Imperial Ports of Seville and Cádiz ,and a few to Galicia.
they were complete Units , "regimientos" of the Spanish Marines , the irihs regiments wore a special blue jackets , "Irish blue" differents from the spanish militar jacket ,red and white ,and their courage were really Known for all.
have you got some information about this unit? , they were something like ,special-force and his blood still alive in many places of the southern Spain; kingdom of Seville and Granada.
Sincerly yours,and sorry for my english
Gonzalo Revenga.
That is some interesting history. I hope you don't mind me asking but what is your wife's name? I could hopefully give you some information on her family history.
As for this unit with blue jackets, I will have to look into that.
there were thousands of Irish who served in the army of Spain starting from the XVI century. These Irish were all known as the "Wild Geese" and they left Ireland after they were defeated at the Battle of Kinsale (where Irishmen and Spaniards fought side by side against the English). The Earl of Tirconnell (The O'Donnell chieftain) and the Earl of Tyrone (The O'Neill cheiftain) left with their forces and sailed to Spain to live in exile.
This is an important event in Irish history and is remembered in many songs and poems. Later, in 1691 the Irish forces of the Catholic King James II were finally defeated by the Dutch Protestant usurper, King William of Orange. At the Treaty of Limerick, the Irish forces finally surrendered after weeks of resisting their inevitable capture. In return, they were allowed to either serve in William's new English army or leave with James II for France. Almost every man decided to leave, most went to France with their King. But many also remembered that it was in Spain that the great chiefs O'Donnell and O'Neill had went and had been welcomed by the Spanish. They left to fight for Spain instead, and for centuries after there were thousands who left to Spain. Some went to train as priests in the Irish Colleges that the Spanish monarchs had granted to the Irish clergy (Catholic priests were outlawed under English rule and faced execution), and then to secretely return to Ireland to serve the people. Some were Irish nobles who left to be welcomed into the Spanish nobilty (a great favour bestowed on our nobility by Spain). But most were soldiers who went to serve a worthy nation, to gain battle experience and with luck, to fight the English on the battlefield and gain glory for both Spain and Ireland.
It would seem your wife's family are descended from these "Wild Geese".
I will try and find specific information on this unit for you later.
Did they have a specific name or any other information that would help identify them?
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I mean to say, I was in Sevilla a couple of years ago along with approx 100,000 other Irish and it was one of the most enjoyable places I've been to. Everyone is still talking about it....some even decided to stay and never returned home. Damned immigrants ;)
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Seperatist as in independence from Spain and Portugal?
Yes. Galicia + Northern Portugal = The independent nation of the celtogermanics in the semitic sea of "Spainportugal"
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Yes. Galicia + Northern Portugal = The independent nation of the celtogermanics in the semitic sea of "Spainportugal"
lol! What a strange idea :no3:
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Sorry for my bad English, I have no time for correcting it either; but I think you'll understand it anyway.
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(Note: The original text is neither Portuguese nor Galician but Galaic-Portuguese, a construct inspired on the ancient language spoken centuries before the differenciation between modern Galician and Portuguese had occured. I must add nowadays Galician scholars are still discussing the correct ortography for Galician, any of them defend the one based on Galaic-portuguese-as the author does, but officially the one based on Castilian is being used and taking advantage since some years; perhaps it isn’t the more correct in my modest opinion either.
For distinguishing Portuguese look for “çao” instead of “çom”, etc.)
Creation of a Galaic (Galician) nationalist forum.
Good morning all.
My alias is “Galaic Patriot”. I’m a person who loves his country.
Give me 5 minutes of your time for making you a proposal. I’m not trying to tell anyone of you what to do. I’m not trying to impose my will on another country-fellow. I just want making a proposal to all the people who love our country.
Thanks for you attention.
Proposal:
CREATION OF A GALAIC NATIONALIST FORUM
1) Why to create a “new” Galaic nationalist forum?
>>There are more and more people everyday in Gallaecia, both North and South, sharing the idea of the Galaic national reunification and the creation of a Galaic national state, prosperous and free from bloodsuckering of Mediterranean Iberia and Mozarab Lusitania.
>>There are more and more people everyday in Gallaecia, both North and South, worried about the acceleration of cultural, political and human colonization executed from Madrid and Lisbon. To this aculturization process we also must add the demographic pressure held by thousands inmigrants of African or mestizo South American stock, that refuse integrating or they are uncompatible in a cultural way with Galaic culture.
>>There are more and more people everyday in Gallaecia, both North and South, thinking our Galaic culture is under threat of real disappearing.
There are more and more people everyday in Gallaecia, both North and South, missing a place for meeting, where sharing ideas, organizing challenges, learning new things or just meeting another country-fellows for talking to and having a good time with great companions.
There are more and more people everyday in Gallaecia sharing these opinions and they wish they would participate in a Galaic nationalist forum. It’s even more important that there are a lot of people being receptive to our opinions and patriotism, but they lack culture and guidance. A Galaic nationalist forum on the internet is going to serve for atracting more people to our ideas, it’s going to be like a library open 24 h/ 7 days where people can be educated. We are Galaic patriots and our intention is creating a new generation of Galaic patriots. It’s necessary creating a “house”/forum of Galaic patriots and it must be attractive, desireable, it must work properly, it must be organized, and it must serve like a tool to the service of our Galaic patriotism.
2) What kind of Galaic nationalist forum is on my mind?
I visited a little time ago the forum from our brother country www.irish-nationalism.net . Visite it. I’m basing my whole proposal taking the example this website because irism-nationalism.net defines perfectly all the characteristics that were on my mind and I consider importantly:
a)Clear, straight, expressive message: “Irish Nationalism” in its own internet domain = seriousness.
b)Elegant interface, patriotic, serious people, gives confidence in the challenge.
c)Software vBulletin, fast, versatile , effective, modern.
d)Topics ordered by threads, efficient, useful, informative.
Basing on this I make a proposal of creating a Galaic forum, taking as the model all we consider positively in the forum of our brother country www.irish-nationalism.net I can assure you the admin of irish-nationalim.net, Milesian, is willing to helping us in everything about the technical support and advisement we could need.
3) How would it be this new Galaic nationalist forum I’m proposing, from a technical point of view?
We must discuss it for joining ideas among all of us. My first proposal is:
a)A clear domain, direct, and serious: www.nacionalismo-galaico.net, www.patriotas-galaicos.net
b)Elegant interface, serious and patriotic. The colours in the website must be national Galaic colours:
-Blue and white (nowadays flag of Galiza, medieval flag of the county and then Reign of Portu-Gall when it was still the Galaic-bracarense territory.)
-Blue and yellow (blue for nowadays Galiza flags, for the medieval Portu-Gall Bracarense flag, historical flag of Reign of Galiza. Yellow for our respected and historical flag of the Royal Suebian House of Reign of Gallaecia, and for the Saint Graal of Reign of Galiza.
-The image of unificated Gallaecia, in green, must be appear v.g. satellite pic.
c)We have great solutions from software freeware for forums like in SMF. Great forums even can be made with phpbb.
d)Topics organized by threads, like in irish-nationalism, for making it efficient, useful, informative.
4) How would it be this new forum I’m proposing from an ideological point of view.
We must discuss it among all of us. This is my proposal. I expect to read yours.
Many of you visit vieiros.com, because it is disgracelly the only forum with a high participation we can meet on. There you will see the way leftists and comunists are fighting and insulting one another all the time. We, Galaic patriots are and must be better then comunists and reds. We must work for the things that join us, our nation Gallaecia. There will be differences between us, mainly about interpretation on the racial issue. All right. But we must always remember we are Galaic and the main thing that join us is our love for our nation Gallaecia. This must always be the most important thing for all of us.
>>On maximes and minimes. Which must the official line be in the forum of Galaic natinalists?
Again, irish-nationalism.com is an example to follow. Website declares ambiguously “stand for defense of Gaelic interests”. Then, when we enter the forum, we can detect clearly the “sensibilities” of the forum members. People make the forum. It’s going to be our forum and the forum of all Galaic nationalists for the national reunification and the preservation of our culture. I think, as good Galaics, we can make the declaration of intentions in the forum a little ambiguous as well, simply “For defense of Galaic interests”, without going upstairs or downstairs. We know who we are and what we want.
>>Security, according to law
One thing will make the difference between communists and us is they are stupid, not us. The commit crime and then they issue it on their website. They are so moron making themselves the work for the police.
Defending reunification of Gallaecia doesn’t break the law of Madrid and Lisbon, it’s free-speech right. Defending crimes or menacing people can be used by the Iberic or Lusitan state as an excuse for closing a website. We must be clever and not tresspassing in public the legality line. We are interested in the website being visible and accessful for spreading and making our agenda 24 h / 7 days our ideas. This is our true victory. Because of this, it will be necessary one or several moderators, the same as irish-nationalism.net or stormfront.orf
>> On Celtism and Germanism
The following one is my opinion. Others will have your own one. I respect your opinions. This is mine:
Our country is a Celtic nation. Our name, Gallaecia, means “Little Galia”, or “little country of Celts” (“Gallia” was “country of Celts”, from “Gallus” = Celt)
Neither Mediterranean Romans nor Iberian Castilians nor Lusitan Mozarabs could get us to forget who we are. They were and are considered foreign invaders. The only exception are the Suebians. They arrive for integrating into our Galaic society, learning our culture, becoming themselves Galaics, and working for the creation of the first united Galaic state. For this they deserve all our respect and we must venerate their memory.
I live during five years of my life in “Middleurope” of Vicente Risco. I think I know German mentality quite well. I respect them as a country they are, but we are different cultures. Our way of thinking and understanding the world is different. We both are Europeans, yes. We both are white, yes. But different culturally. We are Celtogalaics, with our Athlantic idiosyncrasy, and I’m a Celtogalaic nationalist, because my idiosyncrasy is Athlantic. Again, irish-nationalism.net defines it properly: “we are Gaelic nationalists, Ireland is our country, we are allienous to homogeneizating theories like pan-arianism, etc. I’m Galaic nationalist and Celt. I don’t care Slovakia, Luxembourg or Catalonia. I’m proud of our Suebian ancestors, for integrating into our culture and for working in benefit of the country, but I think Celtism and Germanism are two different cultures. This is why before of shouting “Sieg Heil”, I will shout “Gallaecia go bragh” or “Gallaecia Ceive”, because I’m Celt of Gallaecia. I’m proposing, by means of translating the text from irish-nationalism, the Galaic forum defines itself like “Galaic nationalist”.
>>Galaic nationalism and internationalism
The following one is my opinion. Others will have your own one. I respect your opinions. This is mine:
Gallaecia is the last Celtic culture in Southern Europe, in a cultural space including Athlantic Sea from Scotland untl our country. This is exactly what make us different from our neighbours and invaders. Our national core is neither in African Al-Garbh nor Phoenician Cartage. Our national core is in Gallaecia, but also in Ireland, Wales, Cornwall and Brittany. Basically we are surrounded by moorishness. Out of Gallaecia we are surrounded by a mongrel Ibero-arabic culture. Scandinavians used to say it as well: in Peninsule there are Jakobsland and Spain. Normans said it as well: in Peninsule there are Galizur and Span. Galaics said it as well: in Peninsule we stay and Moors stay. Even the Ibero-lusitan-arabs said: in Peninsule we stay and Galaics stay.
Nowadays Gallaecia is being polluted culturally and populationally by a mogrel ibero-arabic culture: bull-fights, flamenco and fado, sun and beach and sangría...This culture is the one of the historic Span. From the Phoenician jolgorrio (crazy party) and Tarraconensis lolailo (lustful dance) to African desert of Al-entejo and Al-Andalus.
I consider it’s urgent reconduct our international relationships. We need all the help available. Among the website sections there must be one in English (our century Esperanto) for letting other Celtic nationalists to visit us and to talk with us. Let communists to waste their time talking about brotherhood between Iberian peoples. We must not waste our time in relationships with an enemy mogrel Iberian-Arab culture. We are tolerant people. We have nothing against them. They fit in their own country. Our time is simply gold. We must forget to think in a colonial “Iberic” way and beginning to think in a Galaic, Celtic and Athlantic way. Our international relationships must be put in first place towards an space which we naturally belong to, and not towards the one which Iberic settler wants we belong to.
I’m ending and thanks for your time.
I wish earnestly this proposal were interesting to you.
I expect your opinions. Among all, a little from each one, we can do it.
Let’s do it. We’ll make a great service to our nation.
“You are from Zingars
from rude Iberians,
from lazy Gypsies,
from hell people;
From Goths, from Moors
And Alarbians; even
let devils to take you.
We are from Gauls,
We are from Suebians,
We are from Franks,
Romans and Greeks,
We are from Celts,
We are Galicians.”
Eduardo Pondal. “On Race”
National Bard of Gallaecia
Thanks for your time
“Patriota Galaico.”
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That's all.
Regards,
Breogan
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Breogan, many thanks for your most excellent reply.:muybueno:
The meaning of the text is now very clear to me. I am still confused however that my support has been stated. I have not been in contact with anyone over such a project.
Perhaps the author embellished his post a little.
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Where do you found this freak?
http://www.my-forum.org/descripcion....=1&nforo=73809
Thanks to everyone who responded.
@ Gonzalo.
I haven't forgotten about your request. I will get back to you regarding this Irish unit.
