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    Muslims at Catholic University complain that the school is too Catholic.

    Muslim students at Catholic University of America complain that Christian symbols make them uncomfortable when they pray in empty classrooms - Jihad Watch

    Crucifixes? At a Catholic university? How about that.

    Of course, at the heart of this complaint is the hope of establishing a Muslim prayer space on the campus that would be subject to different standards than the rest of the university -- a little enclave of Islamic law where its ban on the display of crosses would be "respected."
    It is mentioned below that Muslim students say they like CUA because they feel "safe" and "comfortable." They are receiving the benefits of what Catholics have built at CUA, but are expecting more. They want to bend the institution to their own purposes for their own "comfort."
    They think it's a fine place, if it just weren't so, you know, Catholic, and therefore un-Islamic. "University Accused of Discriminating Against Muslims," from CUA's The Tower, October 20 (thanks to B.):
    New charges have recently been filed against the University on counts of illegal discrimination against its Muslim and female students. The allegations are being reviewed by the District of Colombia Office of Human Rights (OHR), which has the strictest discrimination laws in the country. President John H. Garvey and the University is being urged to respond to the charges.
    John F. Banzhaf III, the George Washington University Professor of Public Interest Law who initiated the legal controversy surrounding same-sex residence halls, is also the one behind these new charges.
    You'll want to read this sitting down:
    The official allegations claim that CUA, “does not provide space – as other universities do – for the many daily prayers Muslim students must make, forcing them instead to find temporarily empty classrooms where they are often surrounded by Catholic symbols which are incongruous to their religion,” according to a press release on PRLOG.com.
    This formal complaint also maintains that the new same-sex residence halls are particularly discriminating against female students, which is a new position on the same-sex lawsuit that began last month.
    For both aspects of the complaint: it's a Catholic university, a private institution. No one is being forced to attend it. On the other hand, its very nature and identity puts a giant target on it for social engineering.
    Banzhaf claims that the University is denying Muslim students the same benefits that students of other religions are able to enjoy since there is no formal Muslim association sponsored by Catholic University but the Columbus School of Law has an association for Jewish students
    “Denying Muslim students the opportunity for form a student group on campus could hardly be based upon any fundamental Catholic doctrine since Georgetown University not only has such a Muslim student group, but also provides its Muslim students with a separate prayer room and even a Muslim chaplain,” said Banzhaf in that press release.
    “An important reason [that Muslims are gravitating towards Catholic universities] is that the Muslim students, especially those who are observant, feel comfortable and safe at the institution,” said President Garvey in an interview with NPR in December of 2010. “It’s a place where their own faith practices are mirrored by our own. And they feel both welcome and understood at the campus.”
    Gentlemen, start your platitudes:
    “Even though it’s a Catholic school, a lot of its teachings are very similar to Islam,” said Al Salmi. “It teaches respect, community service, love, worship etc. which are things that Islam also teaches.”
    The discrimination charge asserts that although OHR has been investigating alleged discrimination on campus since Banzhaf’s lawsuit began, “neither the President nor anyone else speaking for the University has sought to explain to the public, or even to CUA’s own students, why it believes that its discrimination does not violate the Human Rights Act.”
    “As University spokesman, I have repeatedly explained to anyone who has asked me, including the media, that we reject the premise of Banzhaf’s argument, namely that single-sex residence halls are discriminatory,” said Victor Nakas, University Vice President of Public Affairs. “And we also reject his assumption that the Human Rights Act requires residence halls to be co-ed.”
    That does a fine job of illustrating the mindset at work here. Rules and standards are hate and discrimination.
    As these charges are being considered by the Office of Human Rights, the University administration said they will continue to work towards the betterment of its students.
    “Catholic University is committed to the religious freedom and dignity of all members of its community,” said Nakas. “This includes the dozens of Muslims who come to the University for its academic excellence as well as its demonstrated history of outreach and dialogue to people of all faiths.”
    "And, as we Catholics know, Western Civilization is Roman Civilization, first classical Roman Civilization, then Roman Catholic Civilization, as the Christians preserved and carried classical Roman Civilization to the world in a Christianized form. That is, after all, why we are described as Roman Catholics."

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    Re: Muslims at Catholic University complain that the school is too Catholic.

    It doesn't take a Koran-crazed imam telling lies about God to empower the Islamic faithful to this sort of behavior; the maudlin, politically correct-obsessed state of Christianity in the U.S. invites this sort of situation to create itself.

    The story comes from Jihad Watch dot org:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/
    Última edición por Annuit Coeptis; 26/10/2011 a las 23:04
    "And, as we Catholics know, Western Civilization is Roman Civilization, first classical Roman Civilization, then Roman Catholic Civilization, as the Christians preserved and carried classical Roman Civilization to the world in a Christianized form. That is, after all, why we are described as Roman Catholics."

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    Re: Muslims at Catholic University complain that the school is too Catholic.

    This article makes me very happy that I gave a contribution check to Catholic University of America. I will continue to contribute to them as long as they stand firm and defend there Catholicity and remain a Ex Corde Ecclesiae institution. Georgetown, Notre Dame, and other schools that have gone along with the Land O'Lakes rebellion and betrayed there roots can close down. All they are doing is propagating heresy and bearing rotten fruit.

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    This article makes me very happy that I gave a contribution check to Catholic University of America. I will continue to contribute to them as long as they stand firm and defend there Catholicity and remain a Ex Corde Ecclesiae institution. Georgetown, Notre Dame, and other schools that have gone along with the Land O'Lakes rebellion and betrayed there roots can close down. All they are doing is propagating heresy and bearing rotten fruit.
    My religious beliefs are largely deistic or agnostic to be honest. However I consider Catholicism to be one of the great bulwarks of Occidental civilization.

    I've been to a Catholic mass more than a few times and have chatted with the laity and whatnot. I own a copy of the Catechism, it's someplace on one of my bookshelves. When I see Catholics being maligned like this, or forced to adopt the values of aliens, it annoys me- doubly so if the Catholics are Americans.

    These Mohammadens are up to no good, but they're being pushed into mischief by political correctness.
    "And, as we Catholics know, Western Civilization is Roman Civilization, first classical Roman Civilization, then Roman Catholic Civilization, as the Christians preserved and carried classical Roman Civilization to the world in a Christianized form. That is, after all, why we are described as Roman Catholics."

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    Re: Muslims at Catholic University complain that the school is too Catholic.

    However I consider Catholicism to be one of the great bulwarks of Occidental civilization.
    As Hilaire Belloc once wrote "The Faith is Europe. And Europe is the Faith." Below is a text by Belloc that I think you'll find interesting.

    Hilaire Belloc's Europe and the Faith

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    As Hilaire Belloc once wrote "The Faith is Europe. And Europe is the Faith." Below is a text by Belloc that I think you'll find interesting.

    Hilaire Belloc's Europe and the Faith
    I've read a portion of chapter 1 and, while I don't agree theologically with the intentions of the author, I do heartily agree that the western countries owe an immeasurable debt to the empire and church of Rome. To reject Rome, politically or theologically, is to reject the very foundations of Occidental civilization. It seems as if the author is trying to imply that two Romes exist: one in a spatio-temporal sense and one in a metaphysical sense. This is extremely interesting in that the Stoics, amongst other classical philosophers, taught the doctrine of the cosmopolis, the city of gods and men, of which Rome was the earthly representation.

    Good post!
    "And, as we Catholics know, Western Civilization is Roman Civilization, first classical Roman Civilization, then Roman Catholic Civilization, as the Christians preserved and carried classical Roman Civilization to the world in a Christianized form. That is, after all, why we are described as Roman Catholics."

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    Re: Muslims at Catholic University complain that the school is too Catholic.

    Like I've been saying in other threads, this type of immigration needs to be regulated. A lot of these people don't respect our Christian beliefs. I live in United States and I can tell that these people are coming here on uncontrollable measures. United States government practically doesn't do anything. On the other part, they make a lot of emphasis on not letting Mexicans and Central Americans in, however they don't get worried about these types of immigration, some of these people are more dangerous than any other immigrant. Just see what they did in Boston.
    La Iglesia es el poder supremo en lo espiritual, como el Estado lo es en el temporal.

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    Like I've been saying in other threads, this type of immigration needs to be regulated. A lot of these people don't respect our Christian beliefs. I live in United States and I can tell that these people are coming here on uncontrollable measures. United States government practically doesn't do anything. On the other part, they make a lot of emphasis on not letting Mexicans and Central Americans in, however they don't get worried about these types of immigration, some of these people are more dangerous than any other immigrant. Just see what they did in Boston.
    As I understand it the Tsarnaev brothers had been under surveillance for some time but nothing was done to apprehend them. The Russians warned the FBI as well but, again, nothing was done to at least take them in for questioning.

    And the trouble with immigration is that there are people in power in my country who don't want to do anything about it. The Christian culture of the U.S. must be extirpated so that a progressive, secular humanist utopia can be created upon its ruins- a fallacy of course- but that's quite obviously what it's all about. The hordes of immigrants- and they come from places other than Mexico, Central and South America- are simply a source of cheap labor for the crony capitalists in the Republican Party and a source of votes for the communists in the Democratic Party. Why are there members of both groups, who are one Party in reality that presents itself as being two Parties, cooperating on "the pathyway to citizenship," i.e. amnesty? I saw an African woman in a burqa at the store today and my first thought was "What on Earth!"

    The only ones going to lose out in the end to immigration are the heirs of the men and women who built this country- such as English-descended persons on the Eastern Seaboard or Hispanics in States like Texas and the like. I dread what the future of my country will look like- unless something drastic happens.
    "And, as we Catholics know, Western Civilization is Roman Civilization, first classical Roman Civilization, then Roman Catholic Civilization, as the Christians preserved and carried classical Roman Civilization to the world in a Christianized form. That is, after all, why we are described as Roman Catholics."

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