Tema: Pretendientes a los tronos europeos...

mmm pides demasiadas combnaciones para mi gusto, pero pues en este mundo todo es posible. Aunque creo que como hispanista, tal vez deberías preferir que la Luisiana se quede en España, pues según recuerdo, no fue del todo correcta su cesión a }Francia, aunque aqui habra varios compañeros que sben mejor la historia...

La Luisiana pasó a Francia en uno de aquellos trueques que se realizaron en malhadados pactos con Francia hechos por el infame Godoy.

Iniciado por Jarauta

mmm pides demasiadas combnaciones para mi gusto, pero pues en este mundo todo es posible. Aunque creo que como hispanista, tal vez deberías preferir que la Luisiana se quede en España, pues según recuerdo, no fue del todo correcta su cesión a }Francia, aunque aqui habra varios compañeros que sben mejor la historia...

Tienes razón, pero me basaba en el reparto de Jason Gonella, por motivos económicos. El artículo yo mismo lo había subido a este foro, pero no recuerdo dónde.
Igualmente creo que tienes razón, de hecho la mayoría de Estados Unidos debería quedar para España. Aunque quizás, por una cuestión de diplomacia con los franceses se les podría dejar algún pedacito de Norteamérica; por lo menos Quebec, pero eso ya sería partir Canadá y la verdad que no me gusta la idea...
Lo importante es que Estados Unidos como tal, deje de existir; si Estados Unidos cayera, sería un golpe durísimo para la judeo-masonería.

Por cierto, hablando de Francia, Don Francis II, no sólo reclamaría ser Rey de Baviera, Inglaterra, Escocia, Irlanda, sino también de Francia. ¿Qué opináis de eso? Hubo una época, en la que Inglaterra y Francia estuvieron unidos...

He aquí todas las casas reales, pretendientes al trono de Francia:

Category:Pretenders to the French throne

France is currently a republic (form of government) with a president (head of state). It used to be a monarchy with a king or an emperor as its head of state. This system of government was abolished with the outbreak and conclusion of the French revolution (1789-1872).
This category includes all the claimants to the French throne, either as rival claimants during the time that France was still a monarchy, or claimants for the restoration of the monarchy.

• during the monarchy as rival claimants to the reigning monarch:
  
  • pretenders to the throne of the kingdom of France
    
    • of the royal line (kings of England) (1340-1802)
    • of the Jacobite line (Jacobitism) (from 1689 until today)
    
    
  
  
• after the revolution as principle claimants to the restoration of the monarchy:
  
  • pretenders to the throne of the French empire (Bonapartists)
    
    • of the Prince Napoléon Line (1815-1852 and from 1870 until today)
    • of the Prince Canino Line (1846-1924)
    
    
  • pretenders to the throne of the kingdom of France (Legitimists) (1789-1815 and from 1830 until today)
  • pretenders to the throne of the king of the French (Orléanists) (from 1848 until today)
  
  

Subcategories

This category has the following 5 subcategories, out of 5 total.
B

• ► Bonapartist pretenders to the French throne‎ (10 P)
  

J

• ► Jacobite pretenders‎ (14 P)
  

L

• ► Legitimist pretenders to the French throne‎ (11 P)
  

O

• ► Orléanist pretenders to the French throne‎ (5 P)
  

P

• ► English pretenders to the French throne‎ (24 P)
  

Pages in category "Pretenders to the French throne"

The following 5 pages are in this category, out of 5 total. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more).

• British claims to the French throne
• Orléanist

B

• Bourbons of India

L

• List of living legitimate male Capetians
• Line of succession to the French throne (Orléanist)

Fuente: Wikipedia en inglés.

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Y aquí dejo la lista de la Wikipedia, de la cual enlacé al principio, por si la borran o la cambian:

European

State	Pretender	Since	House	Claim	Succession	Abolition	Ref(s)
Albania	Leka II	30 November 2011	Zogu	Grandson of King Zog I (1928–1939).	Hereditary	1944	[90]
Austria-Hungary	Karl II & V [eu 1]	4 July 2011 [eu 2]	Habsburg-Lorraine [eu 3]	Grandson of Emperor and King Charles I & IV (1916–1918). [eu 4]	Hereditary	1918	[91]
Bulgaria	Simeon II	15 September 1946 [eu 5]	Saxe-Coburg and Gotha [eu 6]	Last reigning Tsar (1943–1946).	Hereditary	1946	[92]
Courland	Ernst-Johann	28 February 1982	Biron	Descendant of Duke Ernst Johann von Biron (1737–1740 and 1763–1769).	Hereditary	1795	[93]
England (Jacobite)	Francis II	8 July 1996	Wittelsbach	Descendant of King Charles I (1625–1649).	Hereditary	1707	[94]
France (Legitimist)	Louis XX	30 January 1989	Bourbon [eu 7]	Descendant of King Louis XIV (1643–1715).	Hereditary	1830	[95][96]
France (Orléanist and Unionist)	Henry VII	19 June 1999	Orléans [eu 8]	Descendant of Louis-Philippe, King of the French (1830–1848).	Hereditary	1848	[97][98]
France (Bonapartist)	Charles Napoléon	3 May 1997 [eu 9]	Bonaparte	Relative of Napoleon III, Emperor of the French (1852–1870).	Hereditary	1870	[99][100]
Jean Christophe
Greece	Constantine II	1 June 1973 [eu 10]	Glücksburg [eu 11]	Last reigning King (1964–1973).	Hereditary	1973	[101]
Gwynedd	Evan Vaughan	27 April 1968	Anwyl [eu 12]	Descendant of King Owain I (1137–1170).	Hereditary	1284	[102]
Ireland (Jacobite)	Francis II	8 July 1996	Wittelsbach	Descendant of King Charles I (1625–1649).	Hereditary	1800	[94]
Montenegro	Nikola II	24 March 1986	Petrović-Njegoš	Descendant of King Nikola I (1910–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[103]
Navarre [eu 13]	Alicia	20 February 1994	Bourbon-Parma [eu 8]	Descendant of King Louis II (1610–1620).	Hereditary	1620	[104]
Portugal	Duarte Pio	24 December 1976	Braganza [eu 14]	Descendant of King Miguel I (1828–1834).	Hereditary	1910	[105]
Romania	Michael I [eu 15]	30 December 1947	Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen [eu 16]	Last reigning King (1927–1930 and 1940–1947).	Hereditary	1947	[106]
Russia	Maria Vladimirovna	21 April 1992	Romanov [eu 17]	Descendant of Emperor Alexander II (1855–1881). [eu 18]	Hereditary	1917	[107][108]
Nicholas Romanov	Descendant of Emperor Nicholas I (1825–1855). [eu 18]	[109]
Scotland (Jacobite)	Francis II	8 July 1996	Wittelsbach	Descendant of King Charles I (1625–1649).	Hereditary	1707	[94]
Serbia	Alexander II	3 November 1970	Karađorđević	Descendant of King Peter I (1903–1918), of the Karađorđević line of kings.	Hereditary	1918	[110]
Nikola	24 March 1986	Petrović-Njegoš	Grandson of Prince Mirko, the heir designate of King Alexander I (1889–1903), of the Obrenović line of kings. [eu 19]	[103]
Spain (Carlist)	Sixto Enrique	7 May 1977	Borbón-Parma	Descendant of King Charles IV (1788–1808).	Hereditary	1830
Luis Alfonso	30 January 1989	Borbón	Descendant of King Charles IV (1788–1808).	Hereditary	1830
Dominic	22 October 1987	Habsburgo-Borbón	Descendant of King Charles IV (1788–1808).	Hereditary	1830

Germany

The German Empire was a federation of myriad smaller monarchies, all of which are now abolished under modern republican Germany. As a result, there are a large number of claimants to various German thrones. Since the dissolution of the empire, however, a number of former royal households have become extinct in the male line, and are therefore not represented in the list below. Mecklenburg-Schwerin went extinct in 2001, Saxe-Altenburg in 1991, and Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt and Schwarzburg-Sondershausen in 1971.

State	Pretender	Since	House	Claim	Succession	Abolition	Ref(s)
Empire
Germany	Georg Friedrich	26 September 1994	Hohenzollern	Descendant of Kaiser Wilhelm II (1888–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[111][112]
Kingdoms
Bavaria	Franz I	8 July 1996	Wittelsbach	Descendant of King Ludwig III (1913–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[113]
Hanover	Ernst August V	9 December 1987	Hanover [eu 20]	Descendant of King Georg V (1851–1866).	Hereditary	1866	[114]
Prussia	Georg Friedrich	26 September 1994	Hohenzollern	Descendant of King Wilhelm II (1888–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[111]
Saxony	Albert	9 August 1968	Wettin [eu 21]	Grandson of King Friedrich August III (1904–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[115]
Westphalia	Charles Napoléon	3 May 1997	Bonaparte	Descendant of King Jérôme Bonaparte (1807–1813).	Hereditary	1813	[116]
Württemberg	Charles II	17 April 1975	Württemberg	Grandnephew of King Wilhelm II (1891–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[115]
Grand Duchies
Baden	Maximilian	27 October 1963	Zähringen	Descendant of Grand Duke Leopold I (1830–1852).	Hereditary	1918	[115]
Hesse and by Rhine	Moritz	25 October 1980	Hesse	Adoptive grandson of Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (1892–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[115]
Mecklenburg-Strelitz	Borwin	26 January 1996	Mecklenburg [eu 22]	Descendant of Grand Duke Georg (1816–1860).	Hereditary	1918	[115]
Oldenburg	Anton-Günther	3 April 1970	Holstein-Gottorp [eu 23]	Grandson of Grand Duke Friedrich August II (1900–1918).	Hereditary	1918
Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach	Michael	14 October 1988	Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach [eu 6]	Grandson of Grand Duke Wilhelm Ernst (1901–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[117]
Duchies
Anhalt	Julius Eduard	9 October 1963	Ascania	Son of Duke Joachim Ernst (1918).	Hereditary	1918
Brunswick	Ernst August V	9 December 1987	Hanover [eu 20]	Grandson of Duke Ernst August III (1913–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[114][115]
Nassau	Henri	7 October 2000	Nassau-Weilburg [eu 24]	Descendant of Duke Adolf I (1839–1866).	Hereditary	1866	[118]
Saxe-Coburg-Gotha	Andreas	23 January 1998	Saxe-Coburg and Gotha [eu 6]	Grandson of Duke Carl Eduard (1900–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[119]
Saxe-Meiningen	Konrad	4 October 1984	Saxe-Meiningen [eu 6]	Descendant of Duke Georg II (1866–1914).	Hereditary	1918	[120]
Schleswig-Holstein	Christoph	30 September 1980	Glücksburg [eu 11]	Relative of Duke Frederik VII (1808–1863).	Hereditary	1866
Principalities
Hohenzollern [eu 25]	Karl Friedrich	16 September 2010	Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen [eu 26]	Descendant of Prince Karl Anton (1848–1849).	Hereditary	1850	[115][121]
Lippe	Armin	30 December 1949	Lippe	Son of Prince Leopold IV (1905–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[115]
Friedrich Wilhelm	15 June 1990	Grandnephew of Prince Leopold IV (1905–1918).
Reuss [eu 27]	Heinrich XIV	20 June 2012	Reuss	Relative of Prince Heinrich XXVII (1913–1918). [eu 28]	Hereditary	1918	[115]
Schaumburg-Lippe	Alexander	28 August 2003	Lippe	Grandnephew of Prince Adolf II (1911–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[115][122]
Waldeck and Pyrmont	Wittekind	30 November 1967	Waldeck	Grandson of Prince Friedrich (1893–1918).	Hereditary	1918	[123]
Others
Hesse-Kassel	Moritz	25 October 1980	Hesse	Descendant of Landgrave Friedrich II (1760–1785).	Hereditary	1866	[115]
Schwarzenberg	Karl VII	25 October 1979	Schwarzenberg	Descendant of Prince Johann I (1782–1789).	Hereditary	1789	[124]

Italy

Up until the 19th century, the Italian peninsula comprised a number of states, some of which were monarchies. During the Italian unification, the monarchs of such agglomerated states lost their sovereignty and their titles became purely ceremonial. The resultant throne of the Kingdom of Italy was held by the former king of Sardinia.

State	Pretender	Since	House	Claim	Succession	Abolition	Ref(s)
Italy	Amedeo	18 March 1983	Savoy	Descendant of King Vittorio Emanuele II (1861–1878).	Hereditary	1946	[125][126]
Vittorio Emanuele IV [eu 29]	15 December 1969	Heir apparent of King Umberto II (1946).
Pre-unification
Etruria	Carlos V	18 August 2010	Bourbon-Parma [eu 8]	Descendant of King Ludovico II (1803–1807).	Hereditary	1807	[127][128]
Mantua	Maurizio	18 September 1943	Gonzaga	Descendant of Marquess Federico I (1478–1484).	Hereditary	1708	[129]
Modena	Lorenzo	7 February 1996	Habsburg-Lorraine [eu 3]	Relative of Franz Ferdinand, adopted heir of Duke Francesco V (1846–1859).	Hereditary	1859	[130]
Naples	Joachim	20 July 1944	Murat	Descendant of King Gioacchino I (1808–1815).	Hereditary	1816	[131]
Parma	Carlos V	18 August 2010	Bourbon-Parma [eu 8]	Great-grandson of Duke Roberto I (1854–1859).	Hereditary	1859	[127][128]
Piombino	Niccolò III	8 February 1988	Boncompagni-Ludovisi [eu 30]	Descendant of Prince Antonio I (1778–1805).	Hereditary	1805	[132]
Tuscany	Sigismondo [eu 31]	18 June 1993	Habsburg-Lorraine [eu 3]	Descendant of Grand Duke Ferdinando IV (1859).	Hereditary	1859	[133]
Two Sicilies	Carlos of Calabria	3 February 1964	Bourbon [eu 32]	Descendant of King Ferdinando II (1830–1859).	Hereditary	1861
Carlo of Castro	20 March 2008
Others
Tavolara	Tonino	9 May 1993	Bertoleoni	Son of King Paolo II (1929–1934).	Hereditary	1934	[134]

Others

Croatia
Upon independence in 1941, a puppet monarchy of Italy was instituted in Croatia, with Prince Aimone of the House of Savoy appointed king. Aimone accepted the nomination in May 1941, adopting the regnal name "Tomislav II". In July 1943, however, he was forced to abdicate his throne on the orders of the Italian king Vittorio Emanuele III, before ever having been crowned. Aimone formally renounced all claims in October 1943. Since his death on 29 January 1948, his eldest son Amedeo may be argued to be the heir to that throne,^[135] although he does not advance the claim.^[126] If reigning, he would be known as "Zvonimir II".^[135] However, the Habsburg claim is normally considered the primary one in regard to Croatia (see under "Austria-Hungary", above).

Finland In 1918, following Finland's independence from Russia, the national parliament made an attempt to establish a monarchy under the reign of a German king. Prince Friedrich Karl, of the House of Hesse, was elected as King of Finland in October 1918. He renounced this throne two months later, without ever having taken up the position, and Finland subsequently adopted a republican constitution. For this reason, there is a dispute as to whether the House of Hesse may lay claim to this title, as many maintain that since the king-elect was never installed, the title was never officially bestowed, and thus no claim has any legal basis. The order of succession to the throne was never established, but following the desire to the keep the throne separate from the senior line of the family, the current heir (since 18 November 1999) would be Phillipp, the great grandson of Friedrich Karl.^[136]

Ireland
The Chiefs of the Name are the hereditary chieftains of the Irish clans, who are directly descended from the Gaelic royal families which ruled in parts of Ireland until the beginning of the seventeenth century. Most prominent among these are:^[137]

• Desmond Roderic O'Conor (since 10 July 2000) of the Ó Conchobair, descended from the kings of Connacht.^[138]
• William Butler Kavanagh (since 29 May 1962) of the Mac Murrough clan, descended from the kings of Leinster.^[139]
• Conor Myles John O'Brien (since 20 May 1982) of the Ó Brien clan, descended from the kings of Munster and Thomond.^[140][141]
• Hugo Ricciardi O'Neill of the Ó Neill clan, descended from the kings of Ulster.^[142]
• Liam Trant MacCarthy Mór (since 11 November 2009) of the Mac Carthy clan, descended from the kings of Munster and Desmond. ^[143][144]

Lithuania Following the country's independence from Russia in 1918, the Council of Lithuania voted to establish a monarchy, and invited Prince Wilhelm, the Duke of Urach,^{[eu 33]} to take the throne as king. Wilhelm accepted the nomination in July 1918, and adopted the regnal name "Mindaugas II". During the subsequent German Revolution, however, the Council withdrew its decision in November 1918, and Wilhelm was never crowned. His grandson, Wilhelm Albert is the current head of the family since 9 February 1991. In 2009, the Duke of Urach's brother Prince Ingio of Urach visited Lithuania and announced that if offered the throne he would be ready to assume it.^[145]

Fuente: Wikipedia (inglés).

PS: Borré las banderitas, porque no daban para subir.

Sr. Nicus.
¿Acaso en verdad cree en todos los despropósitos que enuncia en sus correos? En verdad sus propuestas parecen de broma, a quien se le puede ocurrir repartir EU. entre ingleses franceses y españoles o pensar que 120 millones de mexicanos nos convertiremos en felices vasallos de Sixto de Borbón y además borrar del mapa a los centro y sud americanos. No digo más, pero le sugiero más seriedad.

Iniciado por ortodoxo

Sr. Nicus.
¿Acaso en verdad cree en todos los despropósitos que enuncia en sus correos? En verdad sus propuestas parecen de broma, a quien se le puede ocurrir repartir EU. entre ingleses franceses y españoles o pensar que 120 millones de mexicanos nos convertiremos en felices vasallos de Sixto de Borbón y además borrar del mapa a los centro y sud americanos. No digo más, pero le sugiero más seriedad.

El Nicus ya tiene su rey y su reino:

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